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Offroad planning / Allow planning off the trail

Often there may be a small piece of track missing or someone goes off trail for a summit. Allowing the route between waypoints to be set as direct would help with this.

I would see this as having an auto route setting that can be turned on/off while adding waypoints. Users would then go into the list of waypoints and toggle the auto route setting for each waypoint as needed.

Inserting waypoints would inherit the setting from the previous waypoint.

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kiwiant shared this idea  ·   ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
Later on  ·  Adminkomoot Team (Admin, komoot) responded  · 

Hello everyone,

we’ll look into how we can improve the direction of travel of our map display in both apps in the future – we’ll keep you posted here!

Best regards
Daniela

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  • Zisper commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    This has been requested for 2.5 years, and is a simple feature which is available on many other route planning sites. I definitely prefer komoot as it has a nice user interface, and the time estimates which adjust based on fitness and elevation - but I've lost count on the number of times I've started planning a route here, only to have to go and redo it on a competing site. Because there's some small trail section that's not joined in OSM, or a road to cross, or a section of beach, or a park/field/forest I know I can cut through - and komoot wants me to go kilometers out of my way instead. Can manual/straight segments _please_ be added to the planning? You just need to have a setting that for "between this waypoint and this waypoint, go straight instead of trying to follow a path". Just a tick box in the waypoint list to choose "off path".

  • andy flaherty commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    excellent idea - there is one piece of a national trail here in the peaks that detours you miles round because it doesn't realise you can walk across a road !

  • Rewel commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I've only started using Komoot and this problem is making me looking for another app. This is a critical missing feature. Yes, you can adjust the blue line to match the red, but not if the track is not on the Komoot map. User should be able to adjust the blue line freely.

    Another even better solution would be to have an option when importing not to fit the track to the map at all.

    BUT pay attention - neither the original poster nor the admin reply make any sense. Please, read the comments.

  • Ondřej Španěl commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I do not understand what has "direction of travel" to do with this idea. This idea is about manual overriding of path-finding, about setting a route when there is no route on the map, and the user wants to plan such route on his own responsibility. Did admins perhaps misunderstood the suggestion, or perhaps "direction of travel" is a bad translaton of something else?

  • ultrasqirl commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Absolutely need this. What good is a "hiking" app that requires you to stay on "official" routes?

    Gaia is buggy, and Komoot would be my holy grail -- except for this critically important feature.

  • Sergi Sales commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Hi all,
    I just bought the entire package willing to plan over a bunch of GPX I have for following them on my huawei smartwatch, but no.. The planning feature tries to match the map with their routes, having the same problem Joe has.

    Sadly I found this knowlegge base article too late..
    "We'll try to match the GPS track you’re uploading to our path database. Note that the match isn't necessarily exact! You'll see the original track as a red line in the planning interface and the closest matched Tour in blue. You can further customize the planned Tour by adding waypoints manually. After you’ve saved it, you can use Offline Maps and voice navigation for your planned Tour"

    Can we do anything?

    Sergi

  • Joe commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I think I am having the same issue as others on this thread, but I have only used the app for a few days. Am I missing something?

    I am trying to plan a 12 mile loop starting at the trail head, summiting peak A, a class 3 traverse to peak B, and back to the trail head. My problem is the app doesn't recognize the traverse as an option. Instead it is insisting I go almost the entire way back to the trail head (where the trail Y s) and then regain the ridge from the opposite side of Peak A. My total mileage is almost double what it should be. The traverse is only 3/4 of a mile and a fairly well know route.

    Am I missing something? Can I override this?

  • Alan commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    This is really annoying! and is the only reason why i'm thinking of moving to another app.

  • Alex commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Strongly agree that this important feature should be added. In some areas (e.g. in Japan, where I live) road/cycle path intersections are not shown correctly in OSM, which results in long detours. I have been updating OSM as well, but that doesn't seem to solve the problem.

  • Oded commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    This is a very important feature and I would strongly suggest adding it

  • Zisper commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Any idea on timing for this? It'd also be very useful for adding tracks along the beach, which typically don't exist in OSM.

  • Giuseppe commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I was going to ask the same question as sometimes I could see a small part of tracks missing. The routing would result to a big detour.

  • David commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I have tried to do a city tour of my city (Bath UK) and have found that the auto route goes around a street that I would like to include. It can be navigated by foot and bike in the real world but auto route goes around it. It would be great to have an option to manually include a section into your route.

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